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Letter 19On Worldliness and Retirement

Seneca begs his friend Lucilius, now high in Rome’s service, to come in from the open sea: the climb never ends on its own, and each step up brings a new fear. Step back quietly, and take more care over whom you dine with than what is on the table.

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  1. 1The high seas: a busy public career, where the storms break.
  2. 2A ship that shortens sail and turns for home, as Seneca asks Lucilius to do.
  3. 3The harbour, where Seneca waits: a quiet retirement, reached while there’s still time.
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Letter 19 of 124

The letter, part by part

Eight parts, following the website’s sections. Each has a short explanation and its key line. Open “Read this part in full” for the complete text. Tap a dotted word for its meaning.

  1. Part 1

    Don’t parade your retreat, or hide it

    Seneca is delighted by ’s letters and urges him to drop his round of duties, or wrench himself free if he must. They have wasted enough time; in old age it is time, in his phrase, to . But Lucilius shouldn’t make a show of his , or vanish into hiding either. He is too well known to disappear anyway: his past work will keep shining after him.

    We have spent our lives on the high seas; let us die in harbour.

    In freto viximus, moriamur in portu.
    Paraded
    retiring as a show
    Hidden
    a hole to vanish into
    Quiet, in view
    Seneca’s middle way
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    I leap for joy whenever I receive letters from you. For they fill me with hope; they are now not mere assurances concerning you, but guarantees. And I beg and pray you to proceed in this course; for what better request could I make of a friend than one which is to be made for his own sake? If possible, withdraw yourself from all the business of which you speak; and if you cannot do this, tear yourself away. We have dissipated enough of our time already; let us in old age begin to . Surely there is nothing in this that men can begrudge us. We have spent our lives on the high seas; let us die in harbour.

    Not that I would advise you to try to win fame by your ; one’s retirement should neither be paraded nor concealed. Not concealed, I say, for I shall not go so far in urging you as to expect you to condemn all men as mad and then seek out for yourself a hiding-place and oblivion; rather make this your business, that your retirement be not conspicuous, though it should be obvious.

    In the second place, while those whose choice is unhampered from the start will deliberate on that other question, whether they wish to pass their lives in obscurity, in your case there is not a free choice. Your ability and energy have thrust you into the work of the world; so have the charm of your writings and the friendships you have made with famous and notable men. Renown has already taken you by storm. You may sink yourself into the depths of obscurity and utterly hide yourself; yet your earlier acts will reveal you. You cannot keep lurking in the dark; much of the old gleam will follow you wherever you fly.

  2. Part 2

    What would you really leave behind?

    Leaving costs less than it seems. The who crowd Lucilius’s door want what he can hand out, not the man himself; when a rich old man changes his will, the simply moves on to another door. So weigh it up: would he rather lose his true self, or just some of his things?

    None of these men courts you for yourself; they merely court something from you.

    Quorum nemo te ipsum sequitur, sed aliquid ex te.

    They court your purse, not you

    callers your purse you
    The crowd at a great man’s door comes for what he hands out. Nobody is looking at him.
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    Peace you can claim for yourself without being disliked by anyone, without any sense of loss, and without any pangs of spirit. For what will you leave behind you that you can imagine yourself reluctant to leave? Your ? But none of these men courts you for yourself; they merely court something from you. People used to hunt friends, but now they hunt ; if a lonely old man changes his will, the transfers himself to another door. Great things cannot be bought for small sums; so reckon up whether it is preferable to leave your own true self, or merely some of your belongings.

  3. Part 3

    A ladder with no top

    Seneca wishes Lucilius had grown old in the modest station he was born to. His quick rise, his and his post as will only lead to bigger jobs, then bigger still. Desires come in a chain, each starting where the last one stopped, so the day you want nothing more never comes. Better to slip the yoke now than be rubbed raw by it for ever.

    There is a succession in our desires; for one begins where its predecessor ends.

    Altera ex fine alterius nascitur.

    A ladder with no top

    province procurator greater duties no top
    Each post leads to a bigger one, and each want starts where the last one ended. The climb never finishes by itself.
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    Would that you had had the privilege of growing old amid the limited circumstances of your origin, and that fortune had not raised you to such heights! You were removed far from the sight of wholesome living by your swift rise to prosperity, by your , by your position as , and by all that such things promise; you will next acquire more important duties and after them still more. And what will be the result?

    Why wait until there is nothing left for you to crave? That time will never come. We hold that there is a , from which fate is woven; similarly, you may be sure, there is a succession in our desires; for one begins where its predecessor ends. You have been thrust into an existence which will never of itself put an end to your wretchedness and your slavery. Withdraw your chafed neck from the yoke; it is better that it should be cut off once for all, than for ever.

  4. Part 4

    Poor and full, or rich and hungry?

    Private life is smaller, but it fills you up; Lucilius’s present plenty leaves him empty. Wealth is greedy itself, and it draws other people’s greed too. If nothing is ever enough for you, you can never be enough for anyone else.

    Would you rather be poor and sated, or rich and hungry?

    Utrum autem mavis ex inopia saturitatem an in copia famem?

    Poor and full beats rich and hungry

    poor and full rich and hungry
    A small life that satisfies beats a huge one that never does.
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    If you retreat to privacy, everything will be on a smaller scale, but you will be satisfied abundantly; in your present condition, however, there is no satisfaction in the plenty which is heaped upon you on all sides. Would you rather be poor and , or rich and hungry? Prosperity is not only greedy, but it also lies exposed to the greed of others. And as long as nothing satisfies you, you yourself cannot satisfy others.

  5. Part 5

    “But how do I get out?”

    Lucilius asks how he can leave. Any way he likes, says Seneca: he took big risks for money and rank, so he can take one for his freedom. Otherwise he will grow old in one post after another, with no escape. And as his position grows, so do his fears.

    All that is added to your successes will be added to your fears.

    Quantum ad successus accesserit accedet ad metus.

    Every gain adds a fear

    gains fears
    Each promotion is one more thing to guard and to lose. The worries rise level with the wins.
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    “But,” you say, “how can I take my leave?” Any way you please. Reflect how many hazards you have ventured for the sake of money, and how much toil you have undertaken for a title! You must dare something to gain leisure, also,—or else grow old amid the worries of abroad and subsequently of civil duties at home, living in turmoil and in ever fresh floods of responsibilities, which no man has ever succeeded in avoiding by unobtrusiveness or by seclusion of life. For what bearing on the case has your personal desire for a secluded life? Your position in the world desires the opposite! What if, even now, you allow that position to grow greater? But all that is added to your successes will be added to your fears.

  6. Part 6

    Thunder on the highest peaks

    Seneca quotes , who spoke from the very top of Roman power: storms gather on the highest peaks. He teases Maecenas for his showy writing, a fine talent spoiled by too much good fortune. Lucilius should and keep close to shore now; Maecenas left it until too late.

    There’s thunder even on the loftiest peaks.

    Ipsa enim altitudo attonat summa.

    Storms strike the highest peaks

    the top calm below
    Maecenas knew it from the summit: the highest places catch the worst weather. Shorten sail and keep close to shore.
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    At this point I should like to quote a saying of , who spoke the truth when he stood on the very summit: “There’s thunder even on the loftiest peaks.” If you ask me in what book these words are found, they occur in the volume entitled . He simply meant to say that these lofty peaks have their tops surrounded with thunder-storms. But is any power worth so high a price that a man like you would ever, in order to obtain it, adopt as that? Maecenas was indeed a man of parts, who would have left a great pattern for Roman oratory to follow, had his good fortune not made him effeminate,—nay, had it not emasculated him! An end like his awaits you also, unless you forthwith and,—as Maecenas was not willing to do until it was too late,—hug the shore!

  7. Part 7

    Think whom you dine with, not what

    Seneca pays off his usual “debt” of a good saying with a line from : choose your companions before your food, since eating without a friend is how a lion or a wolf lives. A busy great man can’t do that; his guests are whoever his picks from the crowd. He thinks favours win friends, but big favours can breed hatred.

    A dinner of meats without the company of a friend is like the life of a lion or a wolf.

    Sine amico visceratio leonis ac lupi vita est.

    Whom you eat with, not what

    a wolf’s feast a friend’s table
    A feast eaten alone is how a wolf lives. Plain food with a friend is the better meal.
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    This saying of Maecenas’s might have squared my account with you; but I feel sure, knowing you, that you will get out an against me, and that you will be unwilling to accept payment of my debt in such crude and . However that may be, I shall draw on the account of . He says: “You must reflect carefully beforehand with whom you are to eat and drink, rather than what you are to eat and drink. For a dinner of meats without the company of a friend is like the life of a lion or a wolf.”

    This privilege will not be yours unless you withdraw from the world; otherwise, you will have as guests only those whom your sorts out from the throng of callers. It is, however, a mistake to select your friend in the or to test him at the dinner-table. The most serious misfortune for a busy man who is overwhelmed by his possessions is, that he believes men to be his friends when he himself is not a friend to them, and that he deems his favours to be effective in winning friends, although, in the case of certain men, the more they owe, the more they hate. A trifling debt makes a man your debtor; a large one makes him an enemy.

  8. Part 8

    Who receives matters more than what

    Don’t kindnesses make friends? Yes, says Seneca, if you choose who gets them and place them with care instead of flinging them about. His parting advice, while Lucilius is starting to own his mind again: think about who receives a gift before you think about the gift.

    It is more important who receives a thing, than what it is he receives.

    Magis ad rem existimes pertinere quis quam quid acceperit.

    Place your gifts; don’t scatter them

    scattered placed with care
    Kindness flung about wins nothing. Given with thought to the right person, it makes a friend.
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    “What,” you say, “do not kindnesses establish friendships?” They do, if one has had the privilege of choosing those who are to receive them, and if they are placed judiciously, instead of being scattered .

    Therefore, while you are beginning to call your mind your own, meantime apply this maxim of the wise: consider that it is more important who receives a thing, than what it is he receives. Farewell.

The modern take

The website breaks Letter 19 into 12 lessons for today. I’ve grouped them into 4 themes; each lesson is summarised in plain words.

Coming in to harbour

Lessons 1–2
  1. 1

    A life at sea; now make for harbour

    After years of striving, choosing to wind down is wisdom, not weakness. Pick the moment while it is still yours to pick.

  2. 2

    Step back without a show

    Don’t turn leaving into a performance, and don’t slink off in shame. Either way, you’re still playing to an audience.

The hollow climb

Lessons 3–5
  1. 3

    They court what you give, not you

    The crowd round a powerful person is there for what he hands out. Ask who would stay if you had nothing left to give.

  2. 4

    A ladder with no top

    Each success just sets up the next want. If you wait until you feel you have enough, you will never stop climbing.

  3. 5

    Each gain brings a fear

    A promotion feels like pure profit, but it is also one more thing that can be taken from you. Worry grows with status.

Coming down from the heights

Lessons 6–8
  1. 6

    Thunder on the highest peaks

    The places we envy are the ones the lightning hits. The people up there are not safer than us, only more exposed.

  2. 7

    Poor and full, or rich and hungry?

    What counts is feeling you have enough. A modest life that satisfies is richer than a huge one that leaves you craving.

  3. 8

    Stuck at the top, unsure how to leave

    People often stay in draining jobs simply because leaving feels impossible. You took big risks to climb; take one to get down.

Friends and favours

Lessons 9–12
  1. 9

    A small debt makes a debtor; a big one, an enemy

    Someone who owes you a little feels grateful. Someone who owes you a lot may come to hate the reminder.

  2. 10

    Whom you dine with, not what

    Who sits at the table matters more than what is on it. A rich dinner among flatterers is still eating alone.

  3. 11

    Don’t pick friends from the queue at your door

    People who turn up because of your rank are there for what you offer. Don’t mistake them for friends, or think yourself theirs.

  4. 12

    Who receives matters more than what

    A favour builds friendship only if you choose who gets it. Think about the person before you think about the gift.

Read the website’s own translation and full breakdown

Letter 19 on one card

Come into harbour; choose your company

  • Coming in to harbourAfter a life at sea, step back in good time: quietly, not in hiding.
  • The hollow climbThe callers want your purse, each want breeds the next, and each gain brings a fear.
  • Coming down from the heightsLightning hits the peaks. Small and full beats rich and hungry, so dare to leave.
  • Friends and favoursChoose whom you dine with and whom you help. Big debts make enemies.

The line the website ends on“You must reflect carefully beforehand with whom you are to eat and drink, rather than what you are to eat and drink. For a dinner of meats without the company of a friend is like the life of a lion or a wolf.”

Words

Harder words and names from the letter, in the order they appear.

Lucilius
Seneca’s friend, to whom all these letters are written. A Roman knight who rose by his own effort, he was then procurator of Sicily.
pack up our baggage
Latin vasa colligere, the soldiers’ phrase for packing up kit to break camp. Here: getting ready to leave public life.
retirement
Latin otium: time free from public business, given to study and thought. Romans did not see it as idleness.
clients
Dependants of a powerful Roman. They called on their patron each morning and got favours, meals or money in return.
pelf
An old word for money, usually with a whiff of greed.
morning-caller
Latin salutator: a client making the dawn visit to a great man’s house. Many fawned on childless rich men, hoping for a legacy.
province
A territory outside Italy ruled by Rome. Lucilius’s was Sicily.
procurator, procuratorships
An official who ran the emperor’s finances and estates in a province. Lucilius held this post in Sicily.
succession of causes
The Stoic idea that fate is an unbroken chain of cause and effect. Seneca says desires form a chain in the same way.
galled
Rubbed sore, as a yoke rubs an ox’s neck.
sated
Fully fed; satisfied.
Maecenas
Gaius Maecenas (died 8 BC), Augustus’s right-hand man and patron of the poets Virgil and Horace. Famous for wealth and luxury.
Prometheus
A work by Maecenas, now lost. Seneca calls it a book; it may have been a play.
a style so debauched
A dig at Maecenas’s showy, twisted prose. Seneca pretends that a florid style and high office go together.
shorten sail
Take in sail to slow down when a storm is coming. Here: cut back your career.
injunction
A court order stopping someone from acting. Seneca jokes that Lucilius will go to law to refuse his “payment”.
debased currency
Coins with cheap metal mixed in. Seneca pays off each early letter with a good saying, and jokes that this one is not sound coin.
Epicurus
Greek philosopher (341–270 BC) who taught that a calm, pleasant life is the goal. Seneca quotes him often, though he led a rival school.
slave-secretary
Latin nomenclator: a slave who reminded his master of callers’ names and sorted out who was let in.
reception-hall
Latin atrium: the front hall of a Roman house, where clients waited each morning to greet their patron.
broadcast
Scattered widely, the way seed is flung by hand over a field rather than planted.
A few fun factsOptional, 5 short ones
  • Seneca had tried this himself: in AD 62 he asked Nero to let him retire and offered to hand back his fortune. Nero said no.
  • Maecenas gave his name to arts patronage: a French patron of the arts is still a mécène.
  • Seneca wasn’t the first to mock Maecenas’s prose. Augustus teased him for his perfumed, curly style.
  • Most early letters end with a quoted maxim as “payment”, often from Epicurus. Here Seneca pretends Maecenas is too dodgy a coin to count.
  • Gummere’s notes file the lion-or-wolf saying as fragment 542 in Usener’s collection of Epicurus.